User blog comment:Lathagarr Stormgale of Tronn/Debate/@comment-3143419-20101203154130/@comment-1399757-20101203235831

@Talanquel: There is a bit of a flaw I see though, you say "you believe in the Bible as the only given word, and do not follow the doctrines and creeds of men." yet you claim that your church was the first one instituted. There was no such thing as the Bible for the first 400 years of the church's existence, so how could your church exist first, having followed "the doctrines and creeds of men" for 400 years without breaking your own rules?

I'm not trying to heat the argument, but I have to set the record straight - the Catholic Church has/does hold to both scripture and tradition (it is stated we should do so in the very scripture we passed down by word and epistle for 400 years - aka the Bible. Thes: 2: 14   ). The Catholic Church can trace its roots straight to Peter through the line of church fathers (those who were taught by the apostles).